[Csnd] new csound website

hi all -

we have at https://csound.com now the new version of our website --- check it out!

there are still some empty places which we plan to fill in the coming months. but i think the site is already now better than the old one. feedback and suggestions are welcome; it be here on the list or at csound/csound.github.io · Discussions · GitHub

the old website, created about a decade ago, was a big step for us all, and a lot of its work could go into the new design. but it has not been updated for many years, and there was some mess in the code base.

so i decided for a complete restart. the new site is based on bootstrap 5, and i hope the code base is good for further development. i am not a web designer / programmer, so if any professional in this field has suggestions, this is of course welcome. the code is at GitHub - csound/csound.github.io: Csound Project Homepage.

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This is great Jaochim. Thanks again for doing this!

Joachim,

WOW - Awesome! Incredible work. Thanks so much. WOW.

PS - the examples section is going to be especially great (using web csound or the interactive floss models)

  • that will really inspire

Great work on the website, amazing, thanks !

Speaking about website, would you consider interesting to reshape a bit the styling of the manual to modernize its appearance ?

Best

Johann PHILIPPE

PS - the examples section is going to be especially great (using web csound or the interactive floss models)

  • that will really inspire

- Dr.B

Dr. Richard Boulanger

Professor

Electronic Production and Design

Berklee College of Music

Professional Writing & Technology Division

Looks good, very clean and easy to navigate.

It would be good to add a page on using Csound within Pd or Max. Please let me know if you’d like me to write something.
iain

Really nice, clean, not overcomplicated and not heavy on javascript, like the ideal website in my opinion!
Some of the links from the old site aren't there but easily added of course. A couple I remember are WinXound (there was some debate on whether that's relevant - it's mature, but not currently updated - I use it but it's not the most popular). Also I think Victor added links to my builds of 6.17 for Windows with XP compatibility - which again might be debatable as they're not the most current and could just serve to complicate/confuse the nice straightforward website where 99% people will be using the frontends and builds on the site right now.

thanks, iain --- your contribution is most welcome!

but i think this should not go to the website, but to the floss manual. we have two chapters there for it, and in particular the one for using csound in max waits since years for an update:

you can go ahead and send a pull request to Pull requests · csound-flossmanual/csound-floss · GitHub
or contact me offlist if you want to discuss anything.

cheers -
  joachim

thanks for the feedback, richard, and sorry that i somehow trashed your link ...
i am wondering what would be a good way to include it, without confusing the 99% --- perhaps as <small> link? or do you have another suggestion?

that sounds good joachim. I think it would also be good to list it under the csound front ends though on the Getting Started page.

I have a bit of a big deadline in two weeks but will be able to work on this after that and will be in touch.

iain

I agree with Dr B!

My kids have through intense Gorilla Tag play on the Oculus Quest 2 gotten acquainted with the 1962 Daisy Bell / Bicycle Built For Two rendition by Max Mathews and colleagues. I was wondering if there would be a way to have a csound rendition on the website since the original has gone sort of “viral”?
Does anybody in the community perhaps know details about how it was rendered? I suppose the melody parts could have been done with some MUSIC-N version, but the synthesized vocals are likely not part of MUSIC-N…

Also, since there is the excellent Unity wrapper by Rory, is there anything happening on the Unreal front? I believe Steven Yi did something a few years ago? A demonstration of game sound (and music) would be very powerful, I believe…

Regards
Anders

2 apr. 2024 kl. 15:47 skrev Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu>:

PS - the examples section is going to be especially great (using web csound or the interactive floss models)

  • that will really inspire

hi all -

we have at https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=csound.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9jc291bmQuY29t&i=NWYxNzBkMDNiNTVmZGEwZmIyNjczYmRm&t=ZXdZTUNVWFJ2bXFwa05qaWpEQThOVzhrQ1FmUnR2M0VGcmVIVjNyVHN6UT0=&h=18f5f4db93bd4e1eb83aadcea496db9f&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYpmKWVU1jKuTPLD5gnaWwAaG5wwcHTpfjKIfFGmt9h9A now the new version of our website —
check it out!

there are still some empty places which we plan to fill in the coming
months. but i think the site is already now better than the old one.
feedback and suggestions are welcome; it be here on the list or at
https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=github.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9naXRodWIuY29tL2Nzb3VuZC9jc291bmQuZ2l0aHViLmlvL2Rpc2N1c3Npb25z&i=NWYxNzBkMDNiNTVmZGEwZmIyNjczYmRm&t=WnlQelhkK3NsblBZYnNpWWsyOXRpUDlBaE5lZHBYZW13b1pVVlNSa3kyYz0=&h=18f5f4db93bd4e1eb83aadcea496db9f&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYpmKWVU1jKuTPLD5gnaWwAaG5wwcHTpfjKIfFGmt9h9A

the old website, created about a decade ago, was a big step for us all,
and a lot of its work could go into the new design. but it has not been
updated for many years, and there was some mess in the code base.

so i decided for a complete restart. the new site is based on bootstrap
5, and i hope the code base is good for further development. i am not a
web designer / programmer, so if any professional in this field has
suggestions, this is of course welcome. the code is at
https://us-west-2.protection.sophos.com?d=github.com&u=aHR0cHM6Ly9naXRodWIuY29tL2Nzb3VuZC9jc291bmQuZ2l0aHViLmlv&i=NWYxNzBkMDNiNTVmZGEwZmIyNjczYmRm&t=Y3BiTkgveUg5STNsVWQwaE90QXY1Z3ArMkhVa3NDRk5jaUhNQUtBU2d6OD0=&h=18f5f4db93bd4e1eb83aadcea496db9f&s=AVNPUEhUT0NFTkNSWVBUSVYpmKWVU1jKuTPLD5gnaWwAaG5wwcHTpfjKIfFGmt9h9A.

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That Daisy Bell was done with Music III accompaniment and vocal synthesis using another Bell Labs software called BLODI (a block diagram compiler, https://archive.org/details/bstj40-3-669 )

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

great --- looking forward to it!

Hello Anders,

For his Thesis at Berklee, one of my students did a really great speech-singing synthesizer (with FOF and macros) that sings the opening of ‘Daisy‘ and also sings ‘Happy Birthday’ to Max Mathews. We played and gave it to him on his 80th Birthday out at Stanford. I will share it (and the code) with Joachim so that he can hopefully include it in the examples section.

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

That sounds absolutely perfect!
Thank you for that - it would also mean I might actually appear knowledgeable and somewhat cool to my kids when showing them that, for which I will be eternally grateful!

Best regards,
Anders

Great site update. Thank you so much!

man. 1. apr. 2024 kl. 18:58 skrev joachim heintz <jh@joachimheintz.de>:

hi all -

we have at https://csound.com now the new version of our website —
check it out!

there are still some empty places which we plan to fill in the coming
months. but i think the site is already now better than the old one.
feedback and suggestions are welcome; it be here on the list or at
https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io/discussions

the old website, created about a decade ago, was a big step for us all,
and a lot of its work could go into the new design. but it has not been
updated for many years, and there was some mess in the code base.

so i decided for a complete restart. the new site is based on bootstrap
5, and i hope the code base is good for further development. i am not a
web designer / programmer, so if any professional in this field has
suggestions, this is of course welcome. the code is at
https://github.com/csound/csound.github.io.

joachim with parham, sahar, daria, santiago, yanina

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No problem, yes I think a smaller link could be good.. if it's worth keeping in there at all I suppose. Or maybe some kind of different page/section for links that aren't the mainstream builds and frontends (could then feature other links to things like Csound helpers/tools etc, but then it does increase the maintenance burden of the site ie checking links are still alive and such, and maybe the site should just be simple and minimal with the tools/downloads it offers particularly with it being the first point that new users will come etc)

Looks awesome, Joaquim! Thanks for all the work you’ve put into the site & the FLOSS manual. It really is appreciated.

And thanks to all the devs prepping for CS7 - there are some really nice changes/additions coming from what I’ve seen so far.

Best,
Scott

yes i now think that we should have a section on the page about "Other Downloads" where we can put your version, amongst others.
could you kindly tell the link again?
cheers -
  joachim

Sounds good!
There are a few links, both versions with some code alterations/tweaks made to enable them to run under Windows XP and above (there are some notes on Csound builds detailing what had to be changed, and other details, also some other builds including Cabbage 2.7.0 for XP there, if of any use)

6.17 beta (commit d606868)
32bit : http://csound.1bpm.net/builds/csound-windows_x86_32-XPCompat-6.17_d606868-binaries.zip
64bit : http://csound.1bpm.net/builds/csound-windows_x86_64-XPCompat-6.17_d606868-binaries.zip

6.16.1
64bit : http://csound.1bpm.net/builds/csound-windows_x86_64-XPCompat-6.16.1-binaries.zip
32bit : http://csound.1bpm.net/builds/csound-windows_x86_32-XPCompat-6.16.1-binaries.zip

thanks!