# Size of pvx file

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**Created:** [May 16, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forum.csound.com/t/size-of-pvx-file/342 "2021-05-16T08:56:46Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forum.csound.com/t/size-of-pvx-file/342/1 "2021-05-16T08:56:46Z")

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Hi,  
i believe i have a chicken and egg issue here…

i have created a pvx file using pvanal.  
The output is:  
analysing 35280 sample frames (0.8 secs) from timepoint 1.0  
frameSize=1024  
1024 infrsize, 256 infrInc  
135 output frames estimated  
pvanal: creating pvocex file  
20  
40  
60  
80  
100  
120  
140  
160

Now i want to use this pvx file as a mask in an instrument, and i have to put it in a table.  
But i do not know the table size, and deferred size is not allowed.  
How can i get to know the table size of the pvx file?

filelen — Returns the length of a sound file! but not a pvx file  
ftlen - deferred size for GENs 1, 2, 23, 28 or 49 only, so GEN 43 is not one of them  
tableng - same thing as ftlen
